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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpULWBT1WEg

Volk est sortie, et bon sang qu'elle est géniale. (elle était utilisée en fond du teaser du film)

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L'album est sorti...
(j'avoue que j'ai passé plus de temps avec celui de Soap and Skin)

 

mais les live sont beaux:

 

 

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le 7 et 8 juillet, deux concerts a la philharmonie pendant days off (meme tournee que ce qu'on a vu a l'olympia)

 

(et Jonsi et Alex viennent présenter deux projets différents... ca dechire)

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7 inédits de la BO de Suspiria sortent aujourd'hui:

 

 

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DINGUE :hypo: :peace:

 

 

 

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Depuis une semaine, le forum Reddit des fans de Radiohead est en ébullition : 18 minidiscs contenant plus de 17 heures d'enregistrements essentiellement issus des sessions d'OK Computer sont dans la nature. Information officialisée laconiquement par le chanteur Thom Yorke ce mardi : «Nous avons été hackés. Mes minidiscs archivés de 1995 à 1998 (?)». Le mystère plane sur l'identité du ou des voleurs : le groupe lui-même n'est pas en mesure de confirmer la rumeur selon laquelle une rançon de 150 000$ aurait été demandée, à en croire le multi-instrumentiste Johnny Greenwood. Mais puisque ces enregistrements ont de toute manière fini par se retrouver à la portée de tout le monde sur le net, le groupe a décidé de prendre les choses avec philosophie et de les proposer lui-même à la vente pendant 18 jours, au prix de 18£ (20 euros) qui seront reversés à une organisation de lutte contre le changement climatique.

 

https://www.liberation.fr/direct/element/pirate-radiohead-met-en-ligne-17-heures-issues-des-sessions-dok-computer_98752/

 

Les 18 heures de sessions d'OK Computer sont donc disponibles ici: https://radiohead.bandcamp.com/ 20 euros pour l'environnement + un morceau d'histoire c'est plutôt cool, je crois que je vais me laisser tenter, la réaction du groupe a été la bonne. Ils peuvent hacker Björk maintenant ? Merci.

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ils dechirent

 

(Dans ta gueule, petit hacker qui faisait le malin)

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Oui ils ont assuré ! J'ai fait la dépense du coup, 10Go de fichiers en Wav/Aiff  :hypo: (j'ai pris du ALAC y'en a pour 6 Go :lol:)

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Ils ont bien réagi, avec philosophie et tout. Mais ce hacker est une m**** d'avoir forcé la boîte de Pandore. Des décennies de carrière à sélectionner et à construire une oeuvre, à ne garder que le suc d'un ensemble... ce chantage est odieux et n'allons pas imaginer qu'on va trouver 200 Kid A dans ces heures laissées dans l'ombre. J'espère que ça n'arrivera pas à Björk. J'aime imaginer Thome Yorke et Björk comme deux artistes qui ce sont acharné.e.s à construire un quasi sans faute. Déballer le reste sur la place publique est un serrement au coeur pour moi.

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Par contre je ne veux pas casser l'ambiance, mais OK Computer c'est un album de Radiohead, et non un album solo de Thome York

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Je sais, c'est pourquoi je parle de Thom comme artiste en général, sur l'ensemble de son oeuvre (avec ou sans Radiohead).

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Non il disait ca par rapport au titre du sujet qui était encore tout a l heure “Thom Yorke” j’ai posté ici la news parce qu’en fait on n’a jamais cindé les sujets en deux (donc avant les news sur la BO de Suspiria on parlait de AMSP etc..) 

 

Pour ce que ca intéresse les fans de RH ont fait ce dossier Google pour mettre au clair le contenu des minidisks (c'est super :top:) (comme linké dans l'article de libé que j'ai mis) https://docs.google.com/document/d/1kA8u6UhjbutZ-b7TXzmX4qkOTg6nGC1vPg50WwCcZyo/preview?fbclid=IwAR0VRb2rJm3s9Z7K_KdfEyAVIoXlaJqDTuUyMjwzBFOCFkFyl7v7RqRuxeM#

 

Ils expliquent aussi l'histoire au complet et comment les choses se sont réellement déroulés ces derniers jours, pour les plus intéressés/motivés je colle ici: 

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On May 26th, 2019, a user named Zimbra joined the Radiohead subreddit’s official Discord server, W.A.S.T.E. Central. He asked people if there were any people knowledgeable about bootlegs he could contact, as he claimed he had something he wanted to factcheck. Discord user belargu pointed him to another user named Rhett, and so they took it to the DMs.

Zimbra soon revealed to Rhett that he had acquired 18 hours of unreleased material recorded around the time OK Computer was made, and was contacting him to make sure they were never heard of before up until this point. He provided several audio files of previews to show what he had gotten was legitimate. Zimbra then claimed that he traded a rare unreleased song from another artist with someone else who provided the digital minidisc files. He planned to sell them. Beyond this, we don’t know who or where Zimbra got hold of these files.

On June 1st, Rhett added several people to a group chat - people whom he trusted, and several who are now part of the current group. He told us about what had been revealed to him, and that a leak of this magnitude is something that cannot be ignored. He then proposed a plan to recruit trusted fans to discuss the matter further. He wanted to keep this a secret in case word got to Zimbra, which could have led him to raise the price if he saw the demand.

On June 2nd, Rhett made a private server in anticipation for more people. He then asked Zimbra for the price of the files, to which he replied that he was selling each track for $500, and each live version for $50. Given the prices and the length of the discs combined, someone in the group estimated that the entire thing would cost around $150,000. This likely where the incorrect blackmailing rumor comes from.

Someone in the group searched online to figure out who Zimbra is. We soon found out that he was a very reputable leaker on a forum called leakth.is, who has sold many other rare tracks from different artists. He was also in that forum’s affiliated Discord server, where he was seen sending previews to other users. There was a leakth.is post (which is now taken down) of Zimbra selling the now-famous version of Lift for $500.

We then discussed to great lengths on what to do next. After several hours, we came to the conclusion that the band should be alerted online, particularly through Reddit. We believed that letting everyone know would have a better outcome than letting someone shell out thousands of dollars for the leak, which was essentially stolen. We all worked together to word the Reddit post properly, and Discord user dreamgazing took the initiative of posting this in the very early hours on June 3rd. People listened to the snippets and were convinced.

Moral debates aside, our post gained traction. Some news sites were already picking it up, and the announcement spread to other parts of the internet, such as r/indieheads and /mu/. Other people figured out that Zimbra was involved in this, and they were not happy.

On Reddit, people were expressing disappointment that he would have the nerve to sell these for such a price, let alone even having the leak. /mu/ was very keen on getting them as soon as possible - to the point of conspiring to dox Zimbra. People were pinging him en masse on the W.A.S.T.E. Discord server. This put a lot of pressure on him.

Later that day, Zimbra approached Rhett again privately, having figured out that he had spread the previews. He was upset that he shared them, and that we claimed he was selling them for $150,000. They also had a lengthy discussion on what to do next. Zimbra came to the conclusion that he should release the leak for free to rid him of all the social pressure. He told Rhett that he would be posing as hoserama, a famous Radiohead bootlegger, to shift the blame away from him. We would like to make it clear that the actual hoserama was never involved in this.

 

This is the main part of the chatlog between Zimbra and Rhett, showing how Zimbra got convinced to leak the entire thing for free. https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/585300093142302720/588232779087609887/ZIMBRA_CHATLOG.png

bel says rhett is a master at 4D chess and that girlpowerchords is getting much better at checkers with practice! (he ordered belargu to add this in the document) {did he really ORDER?}

The mega.nz link was posted to W.A.S.T.E. on June 4th, 10:40 pm EDT.

As soon as we got the leak, we were so shocked at the size and the legitimacy of it that we immediately started timestamping the songs as we listened through for the first time; we figured that the least we could do was to help the community in this way. Many of the group members online at the time split the files amongst each other to get through all 17 hours quicker. This was finished in the very early morning of June 4th, and the first version of this Google Doc was posted to Reddit, particularly in this thread.

A lot more work was done to update the document to beautify the formatting and fix any inaccuracies. During this time, some more articles were made (some of which were inaccurate and had the ransom story), some journalists contacted us, and one of the group members got into contact with XL Recordings. The second version of this Google Doc was finished and updated on June 7th.

After that, we were exhausted but satisfied. We saw that the hype surrounding this leak was starting to die down, so we were preparing to take a break. However, we were in for another surprise when the band themselves released the statement from Jonny that they were uploading this officially. Even more articles were made, now spreading the ransom story. All of this has led us to this point where this statement has to be made.


 

 

 

Ya des perles quand même, j'en suis pas a 10% d'écoute mais la version longue de Paranoid Android sur le disk 5 avec cette fin qui n'en finit plus c'est superbe ! :happycrying:

 

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Par contre, le hacker qui pirate les chutes d'un album qui a 20 ans et qui espère obtenir une rançon plutôt que de pirater un album avant sa sortie, c'est un peu couillon.

 

Il s'attendait à quoi sérieusement ?

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Je pense surtout qu'il a pris ce qu'il a réussi a trouver en piratant l'ordi de Thom... 

 

Et donc il ne s'agit pas de TOUTES les sessions de OKC mais une partie, et le hacker n'a pas explicitement demandé 150000$ mais avait prévu de vendre le leak track by track pour 500$ par morceau,  j'ai lu aussi que RH aurait pu tout manigancer pour faire du bruit et vendre les sessions pour la bonne cause (ce qui leur ressemblerait pas mal, l'avenir nous le dira peut être :boing:

 

Aussi ici une bride de conversation entre le hacker (zimbra) et le gars qu'il a contacté pour les infos sur les bootleg (lire l'historique en spoiler dans mon message précédent) https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/585300093142302720/588232779087609887/ZIMBRA_CHATLOG.png

 

Il  dit bien qu'il ne connait pas plus le groupe que ca, qu'il est habituer a faire des leak de rap et que les prix pour les leaks de ce genre de musique tournent dans ces eaux là habituellement.

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Il y a 21 heures, HöShI a dit :

j'ai lu aussi que RH aurait pu tout manigancer pour faire du bruit et vendre les sessions pour la bonne cause

 

Ça m'a traversé l'esprit aussi mais je me suis dit : "Ça y est, on tombe presque dans la théorie du complot !".

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